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Is the end of vaccination priority in sight? – SWR news

Is vaccination prioritization obsolete? Medical ethicist Norbert Paul does not want to throw the established order overboard yet – but work on refreshing it has to be done every day.

SWR Aktuell: The vaccination priority was created because initially there was extremely little vaccine and the aim was to ensure that the vulnerable over 80-year-olds were vaccinated first. Clear guidelines, clear implementation. This clarity is now missing in many places – is it time to throw the prioritization overboard or at least to refresh it?

Prof. Norbert Paul: For me as an ethicist, it is foreseeable that this will happen, but it is still too early. For one thing, because we don’t have enough vaccine yet. We still don’t know how much we will have in Rhineland-Palatinate at the end of May. On the other hand, we have a number of groups that have not yet been taken into account in order to maintain the community. Take pharmacists, for example – only those who test or work in the vaccination center are vaccinated. But everyone else is in contact with sick people every day. So there are still people whom we consistently protect and therefore have to vaccinate as a matter of priority.

Prof. Norbert Paul heads the Rhineland-Palatinate ethics advisory board on corona vaccinations and explains how to proceed.  (Photo: SWR)

Prof. Norbert Paul heads the Rhineland-Palatinate ethics advisory board on corona vaccinations.


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SWR Aktuell: Doesn’t vaccination prioritization press us into too rigid a corset? Example teachers: We absolutely want to leave the schools open. At the same time, teachers from secondary schools in Rhineland-Palatinate are still not vaccinated. Hessen has meanwhile prioritized this professional group higher, which leads to resentment in the staff room, where vaccinated and non-vaccinated people sit next to each other.

Discussion about corona vaccination for all teachers in Rhineland-Palatinate

Paul: Yes, at this point we have to enter into an open discourse and weigh up the prioritization depending on the situation. If our aim is to open schools and if you watch the hustle and bustle after school – that often looks like normal – then it certainly makes sense to protect teachers as well as kindergarten teachers. However, we observe that the schools have excellent hygiene concepts. The transmission process is clearly laid out there, thanks to the schools. But: You have to negotiate the prioritization all the time, every day, there is no avoiding it. And with teachers this is certainly still an open discussion – but it is made more difficult by the lack of vaccines.

SWR Aktuell: What would happen if you gave up vaccination prioritization?

Paul: It just needs a consensus at the state level and that depends on the amount of vaccine doses available. If the prioritization is abolished, each vaccinating unit would vaccinate according to its own priority – then it would be a matter of chance who is prioritized as long as there is not enough vaccine. We then come into a situation of inequality that is also unjust. Priorities have to be set deliberately, and each group has good, justified reasons for asking for prioritization. As an ethics committee, we wrestle with all of these decisions and have to give them good reasons.

SWR Aktuell: How intensively is the Ethics Advisory Board now heard on questions of the sequence of vaccinations?

Paul: Whenever a new question arises, we are involved. That was the case, for example, when the demand arose to pull up the riot police in the order. And that is also the case with the individual decisions. We made a conscious decision in Rhineland-Palatinate to allow this. A purely schematic prioritization simply disregards too many individual fates. Hundreds of individual applications have been received by the state and discussed by the ethics committee.

SWR Aktuell: As planned, the very old people were given vaccinations, but now many 30 to 40-year-olds are seriously ill in the intensive care units. Is the prioritization of the pandemic lagging behind?

Paul: You don’t believe how many sleepless nights these questions cost me: Is everything still ethically well founded? Is the prioritization strategy still correct? For a while it was certainly right, the clinics emptied because of the vaccination of the over 80 year olds. But now the pandemic is being pushed into younger groups. But in the end it is always the question: When can we all vaccinate and also whether the willingness to vaccinate will then be high enough. Indeed, that worries me too.

When it comes to vaccinations against Corona, the prioritization is repeatedly criticized in Rhineland-Palatinate.  The picture shows a syringe and the request to wait until you are called.  (Photo: dpa Bildfunk, picture alliance / dpa | Felix Kästle)
When it comes to vaccinations against Corona, the prioritization is repeatedly criticized in Rhineland-Palatinate.  The picture shows a syringe and the request to wait until you are called.  (Photo: dpa Bildfunk, picture alliance / dpa | Felix Kästle)

Always nice one after the other – at least that’s how it is intended (symbol picture)




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SWR Aktuell: Starting next week, the vaccine deliveries to the general practitioners will be mixed. 50 percent Biontech, 50 percent Astrazeneca. General practitioners fear that Astrazeneca will be denied by many, but the prioritization does not allow vaccinating other people who have not yet had their turn but would like to take the Astrazeneca vaccine.

Paul: At the moment, I still consider this an artificial problem because I have had different experiences with us at the Mainz University Hospital. We vaccinated over 2,000 employees with Astrazeneca. In a crisis meeting this week I was asked whether a second vaccination with this vaccine might not be possible. Quite a few employees want that, because a change between different vaccines appears to them to be the worse option after a risk assessment. So: For many people in the medical field, the discussion about the Astra vaccine is not so much of a topic, although we in Mainz also had to treat someone with a vaccine-related sinus thrombosis in the clinic.

The prioritization list is already valid for a period of time that we didn’t want to imagine for so long.

Mainz medical ethicist Norbert Paul

SWR Aktuell: Wherever you ask around, there are stories that make you doubt whether the written prioritization works in practice. Vaccinated beauticians or people who have a certificate for the daily care of their parents, but who live 300 kilometers away.

Paul: Well thought – and that is the prioritization – is just not done well. The body-hugging service providers were prioritized because there are some among them who take care of the hair or feet of the elderly in the nursing homes. But I’m also a bit old-fashioned here: It also has something to do with decency and solidarity. And of course the prioritization list is already valid for a period that we didn’t want to imagine for so long. We now have a phase of softening prioritization, where everyone thinks: “Now I can too.” The guilty conscience is no longer included when pushing ahead. But it’s like tax evasion: not paying taxes correctly and then complaining about the lack of bridges over the Rhine, that doesn’t work. And I do not want to have more authoritarian states to enforce the prioritization.

Relaxation after lockdown in Rhineland-Palatinate a “crazy idea”

SWR Aktuell: When will the time come when we can throw prioritization overboard because we’re swimming in vaccine?

Paul: I don’t venture a prognosis. I do not consider the vaccination offer announced by the federal government for everyone until summer to be absurd if summer refers to the period around the federal election in September rather than the beginning of the summer vacation. For most of us, it will then be too late for a regular vacation. But we also don’t know what to expect with the mutants. We are currently seeing many younger seriously ill patients – all with mutants. It was just a crazy idea that we started to loosen up when the third wave picked up speed.

The interview was conducted by SWR Aktuell editor Andrea Lohmann.

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