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“The scoop is out of fashion,” he warns Jose Maria Listorti, who reinforces his idea by stating that today, with social networks, “it no longer works.”
After several years at the forefront of entertainment and current affairs magazines, the comedian returns to the grassroots and immerses himself in entertainment. “I was already tired,” he confesses to Teleshow regarding their role at the forefront of that type of content. “From the Darthés case to here, they are all issues heavies. It is not that they talk about the 1 that he put Polino a Charlotte…”.
Happy to dive back into his passion, entertaining people, Listorti prepares to tour a 500 square meter studio turned into a supermarket. Super super It comes to get into the houses for pure entertainment. From today, the new proposal of The nine It will bring challenges, prizes and healthy competition, from Monday to Friday at 4:00 p.m. and with a solidarity gala of celebrities on Saturdays.
“New program.” After so many years, does it generate the same adrenaline?
—Re anxious, re nervous … I have been doing magazine for 14 years, current affairs. I’m a comedian, a driver. I sorely missed doing entertainment and getting out of the show a bit and all the controversy.
“You never denied that either.” Not that you suffered from it.
—Sometimes yes because I don’t have that journalism gene: I want to have fun. I entertain, I present fun, I try to do something so that people have a good time. Above, between the femicides and the coronavirus, I could not function as a fun driver. There was seems to me that (there is) a saturation of the panel programs. Now it is diminishing, before they were all programs like that. Behind a counter, sitting on individual, in a large armchair or hanging from above a harness, the format is all the same. On Intractable They also talk about shows, in show programs they talk about politics. All in chain talking about the same thing. It is good to have entertainment programs that, although there are many, are different.
“After so many years, how do people keep falling into hidden chambers?”
—There is a small caveat that is not seen by the edition. It happens to me with my son: I make a joke on him, he gets angry and in two minutes we are fine. Then I make him angry again. If I edit that often, you say: “Che, don’t you see?” We started recording at seven in the morning and finished at four, five in the afternoon. In the middle, we have lunch with the victim, moments go by when nothing happens, but you see everything together and you say: “It’s one after another …”. But in between we had fun, I made a joke, we ate, we talked about family. And suddenly, the key jumps me, I get angry with a producer. It’s a 24 hour performance.
“Do you have a good time or do you suffer at some point?”
-I have fun. I am very amused by the discomfort of the other (laughs)
—How did you experience the closing of Must see?
“I promised myself not to cry.” The goodbyes are false. Not fake, but they don’t end up being a goodbye. I said it to the air, of Denise (Dumas) I said goodbye about twice and went back to work with her. With Majo Martino, also. With Gaby (Fernandez) we hugged, crying and went back to work. With Fernanda Iglesias. With Dear Molinari we did Palermo Hollywood Hotel. The table is so small that we meet again. There is no farewell, it is a “see you later.”
“With Denise there is a friendship beyond the program.”
“We have known Denise a long time ago.” In fact, I was the matchmaker with Campi so that they met. The first dinner was a lot of fun. She had separated from her husband, Campi was single, they told each other that they liked each other and I hooked them up. The four of us went out the first time. We went to eat at one place … The other wanted to be cool and chose a Moroccan food place that no one liked. Denise likes hamburger. Sure, Denise Dumas, model; He came from the Under, he said: “How do I do?” Later he met her and realized that she is simple, that she likes to drink mate, a choripan standing up. And Campi is the same.
“What drivers do you admire?”
—I have to look good but apart I admire him: Marcelo Tinelli. He is a fantastic driver. I really liked the (Roberto) Pettinato of Hard to tame, especially when the political question was not there. On the radio I really liked (Mario) Pergolini when he did Which?, a program, the of the 90s, that I had the opportunity to be part of the first year: the artistic, what they talked about, the trilogy (Eduardo) De la Puente, (Marcelo) Gantman and the. Lalo Mir, no way. La Negra Vernaci seems like a goddess to me, she’s great. She achieved a type of radio that only she can do: only La Negra is good at bitching, being eschatological, politically incorrect phrases that said by another person would generate a scandal, a repudiation. People understood that Black Vernaci is making humor and that she does not think what she is saying but that she is laughing at those who think that way.
“Is it a difficult time for humor?”
“Very complicated.” We have to understand that humor is fiction. I do not understand why it is not understood. When you make a joke you are not affirming that you agree with what you are saying, otherwise we would have to put those who write films where they kill women or rape in the face.. Even if you don’t agree, the joke exists and you don’t have to say: “Oh, no, this is a guacho, a homophobic, a macho, a discriminator.” It is a joke, it is still fiction. Humor is still an artistic expression. Why is it the only artistic expression that has to have limits? I do not see that a musician has limits when composing or a painter, a playwright, a poet.
“Does it limit you personally now?” Does it lead you to think differently?
“Yeah, and it sucks.” The limit of humor is what makes you funny or not. There has to be humor for everyone. If you don’t like black humor, don’t consume it.
—Some time ago your wife, Monica Corral, had an interdict with Julieta Díaz.
-Yes. They talked, everything was fine. I did not want to make any statement; in fact, in our program we do not touch the subject. The producers were drooling over it. Do you know why I didn’t want to? Because I am in favor of all the struggles of the girls, one hundred percent. I did not want this to become a war between Listorti and feminists or against Julieta Díaz. I am in favor of gender parity at work, equal pay, not to mention abortion, not to mention being against femicides and that there is a greater penalty for batterers and femicides. Then, I did not want to give any statement so that no quotation marks appear that may look like I am against them.
—We are in a very black or white moment.
—Opinion differently is part of democracy. I may disagree with you on a lot of things, but why do we insult ourselves so much when we think otherwise? I can’t understand why the macrista is so hated when one is a Kirchnerist and why the Kirchnerista is so hated when one is a macrista. I do not get it.
—At the beginning of the pandemic, there was a feeling that we were going to do better.
“We thought this was going to make us grow up, and it made us shit.” It was worse. This pandemic exposed the worst of human beings: selfishness, “I want to save myself and I don’t care about the other”.
“Did you get vaccinated?”
“I just signed up.” I’m pro vaccine, pro scientist. Being against the vaccine I can not understand. Many deadly diseases have disappeared thanks to mass vaccination. This of the fake news when they said that the Sputnik It changed your DNA, that you put on the spoons … A string of nonsense.
“A few days ago one said that his penis got smaller from getting vaccinated.” There is a level of delusion …
—I can’t have it as a kid, so it’s no problem (Laughter).
“How are you seeing Marcelo?”
-Well. The program amuses me a lot, I really like humorous Fridays, Marcelo is the best. What is missing The academy it’s the audience (in the studio). He was nourished a lot from the public.
—And the numbers on TV, how do you see them?
“The TV needs to be renewed.” There was a lot of similar program. Except MasterChef Y Miracle doctor, It is very difficult. Also MasterChef takes two seasons: give me MasterChef 12 years from now, when the twelfth year they already cooked rice, they already made chicken; it will also have a loss. Marcelo has been around for 30-odd years, it is logical that there are better and worse years.
“How do you get along with the trades?” What was the most bizarre guideline they proposed to you?
“A sex shop.” They called me to see if I could do it and I said: “Excuse me, but I do things with my children, I can’t show up with a dildo in hand” (laughs). “No, but we can do something with costumes.” I’m kind of easy on those things, but they’ve offered me. Then trade in for cosmetic surgery. I don’t know what he wanted me to do. I told him no.
– There are those who criticize the exchanges, either because they say that the famous abuse or some cachet is leaked.
—I always say the same thing: giving is giving you something and not giving anything in return. We are advertising. I have a million and a half followers: it suits the person. I defend the exchange to the death. We both came out winning.
—To close: number expectation for Super super?
—The important thing is that people like it, that the channel is happy, and that it works commercially. Today many factors play a role. The number is for the gilada.
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