Apple will allow other vendors’ app stores in 2024 under EU pressure – IT Pro – News

If you need apps that aren’t allowed in the Apple Store for some reason, you’re currently forced to buy another phone.

Or side loading. But it’s quite logical, after all, you need to buy a device that can do what you need; not what doesn’t work what you need. Enough weeds.

Could it also be that there are alternative app stores that are stricter than Apple?

Sure, but that doesn’t solve the problem. Also… if you soon need 10 stores to get your apps and 1 of them has stricter rules: well, yay. This puts clods on the dam.

First of all, it’s not about users, it’s about developers. Developers cannot switch to another app store. This is (so far) not allowed by Apple.

And rightly so imho. After all, it’s Apple’s platform, which works the way the vast majority of users want and are willing to pay (partly for it), and no one is forcing you to develop for iOS. The fact that Apple shouldn’t be allowed to impose any rules, while it is their platform and thanks to those rules we have a very uniform operating system and Facebook, for example, is forced to respect at least part of users’ privacy rights, is a absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. If you don’t want rules, you can also buy some brands with Android. I also think it would be a big setback if we were to get a MetaStore that users would have to get from Facebook, Instagram, etc., because it would then be able to bypass all privacy rules and API restrictions. This isn’t really a win for the consumer. You may not like Apple’s method, but they applied that kind of shit well and find a great balance in it.

Second, many people can’t afford to simply buy another device, especially if they’ve invested heavily in apps for that device. Because it is often not possible to take those apps with you and/or migrate the data.
So it’s not that simple.

Why would you go for iPhone when you don’t like it and then when you apparently don’t like or miss something, you also invest heavily in apps that you know you can use (IF they are on the other platform) you have to buy again…? Then you’ve gone completely wrong somewhere. It’s not that it doesn’t work as advertised.

People usually end up buying a new device, I don’t think a platform shift is generally that urgent as to really be a problem unless you suddenly need the money to do it today, but that could just be me. So you wait with the migration until you’ve already had to buy a new device or save money, right? It often happens to you when something is not (any longer) to your liking.

I myself switched from Android to iOS and I can’t say that it was difficult or that it cost a lot of money.

Be that as it may, I really don’t think this is a strong argument to completely destroy the foundations under the ecosystem and completely deprive consumers of the choice for an uncompromising/no blackmail walled garden.

The point is, Apple shouldn’t have any control over it.

Disagreement. So I think Apple should maintain that control so that there is still a uniform and standardized way of working and also that the consumer really has the choice of buying from Apple or a competing supplier. But the rules should remain the same, including and certainly the rules on privacy and API usage. They could deviate completely from the payment and make up their own rules, and that will probably cause enough harm to the consumer… Think of Epic wanting their own Store and IAP system because they find it annoying having to give refunds from Apple to parents whose child abused the card of credit. Well… In the Epic Store they don’t suffer from it anymore. Partly for this reason, it would be nice if Apple could enforce that the consumer also has a choice at any time to purchase the app or IAP through Apple.

Do you want to force developers to release their app from Apple? And you want to force Apple to drop its own rules and include all software?

No and no. Developers are never, ever required to develop for iOS, and I don’t want Apple to have to include all software. There are only rules for iOS and as far as I’m concerned they should continue to apply, because I don’t see how the EU will help the whole of iOS with completely unnecessary and largely unwanted (out of a show of force) rules. But what then becomes possible are different payment platforms, incentives from those other alternative shops, different marketing strategies, sadly also different privacy rules within those shops themselves and finally differences in each other’s payment processing fees. So a lot of things you can compete with Apple on…

By doing so, the desired competition is obtained, even economically, but the strength and security of the ecosystem and its standardization are maintained, which the user expects and wants and does not want to be taken away from the EU. Plus, you have real choice, because the app is always on sale through Apple, and the consumer can actually choose who and why to pay there.

It’s a nice compromise, don’t you think? I don’t see why the whole platform has to be scrapped, it has to be completely open (go to Android if you want? That choice is now there!) and there has to be a uniformity that everything works the same and everything has to be open. I think it’s a very neat compromise and the only way we really get to choose and as a bonus iOS continues to exist the way those billions of users love and don’t want to lose to silly EU rules that the majority don’t. I like it at all, it’s waiting.

Because if you make it mandatory that apps in alternative stores also comply with Apple’s rules, then it doesn’t make sense.

On the contrary! Imho it certainly makes sense and what I’m proposing, and of course you don’t have to agree with it, can perfectly comply with that law and actually achieve what people claimed they wanted to achieve with it. Why it must necessarily be an extreme that iOS can no longer be what it is and has to be opened completely is a mystery to me and seems completely undesirable to me, precisely because then no real choice is left for the consumer. Yes, open or open. By the shape you can determine if it smells like apples or oranges, but that’s it.

Anyway; it’s my opinion. No one has to agree of course.

[Reactie gewijzigd door WhatsappHack op 14 december 2022 02:23]