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The Debate Post: Discussing Men’s Challenges Without Derailment

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In recent weeks, the debate about the boys has raged again. FpU leader Simen Velle started it all with an honorable, but clumsy, attempt to raise the challenge of loneliness among men. He regretted that presentation of the point. Many times. Rightly.

Because instead of being about loneliness, the aftermath became a trench war about sex culture and sex. A legitimate discussion, but a derailment from the core of the debate.

When others on the right try to pull us back from that side track, one is nevertheless met with new trench arguments. As if what the right really means is that the women’s struggle must be put in reverse. Or that one tries to steal the focus on women’s equality challenges.

Neither part contributes to taking the debate further.

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Peaks dung stats

We must be able to discuss men’s challenges without starting with “young men have challenges, but so do women”. And then derail. Of course, women have equality challenges. No one has claimed otherwise. But that’s really not what we’re discussing.

When the left then claims the right pits men and women against each other, they hold themselves to a different standard.

In the same way that dragging men’s challenges into any women’s struggle debate is a derailment, women’s challenges become a derailment in the debate about guys. So let’s discuss them separately. As the left themselves claim they want.

Young men top many dung statistics. We end up more often in crime and unemployment. We are more lonely. We often do not get the help we need from the welfare state. We commit suicide more often. And we lose in school – throughout the course of education.

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Cast as a stupid Neanderthal

None of this is new. Or particularly Norwegian. Nevertheless, the debates result in us men just having to understand how good we are and pull ourselves together. After all, we live in a male-dominated and patriarchal society.

And to the extent that we are going to make some system adjustments for boys, for example in school, the answer from the Norwegian left is that we only have to get an extra hour a week. Or that the boys have to spend more time in after-school care and with a special education teacher.

On the one hand, you are left with a forced sense of the enormous privilege it is to be a man in our society, while on the other you are portrayed as a stupid Neanderthal who only needs a hammer and a nail.

Is it any wonder then that young men are fleeing from the left and to a greater extent seeking extremes that recognize our challenges? Or that political polarization between the sexes is increasing?

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Pushes away guys

The left’s own explanation is self-reinforcing. The reason they lost the election is because the guys are on TikTok. After all, we are too stupid to understand our own best interests.

If it were true, the girls would flee from the left to the same extent. But they don’t. Why not? Yes, because girls feel that their challenges are addressed and recognized on the left. And they are taken seriously.

It does not mean that the right-hand side has all the answers. I think both more discipline, level sharing and accountability in school will be good for many boys. That said, not all proposals from the left are stupid.

But right now they are stuck in an uninteresting and contrived side track that pushes the guys away. It’s primarily stupid for guys in particular. The parties that, after all, rule the country with an overwhelming majority, do not want to see us.

2024-03-17 21:43:53


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