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Corona tested positive but asymptomatic – disease or immunity?

PCR tests also recognize parts of viruses that are no longer reproducible. According to the quality tests of the test, 1.4% of samples are guaranteed to be wrongly recognized as positive without viruses and with other corona viruses the test even incorrectly responds up to 8% as positive. And on several occasions, up to 80% of those who tested positive had no symptoms. Even a high percentage of people who later found antibodies could not remember any symptoms, such as in Ischgl.

The question now is what is the cause of this. To do this, let’s take another look at the study by the immunologists at the University of Zurich, which is the most careful and extensive to date. Two different groups were examined. The first group consisted of people with mild to severe symptoms, the second consisted of health workers who had been exposed to the coronavirus.

In both groups, the scientists searched for antibodies not only in the blood, as was done in other studies, but also in the eyes, nose and mouth.

The weapons of the immune system

The immune system uses various weapons to protect us against infections. First there are the antibodies, the immunoglobulins IgM, IgA or IgG, which occur in different stages of the infection and above all in different places in the body. The antibodies can only be detected over longer or shorter periods.

The antibodies fight the virus as soon as it is in the body and before it can enter cells. They are specialized defense cells that remove infected cells. They have a memory, remember illnesses they have already gone through and activate specialized cells. If no antibodies are available, immunity is still provided by the T cells. And these have already specialized with previous flu corona viruses. Many studies have now proven this, for example from the Berlin Charité, Karolingska University, Chinese and US studies.

Those infected with mild courses had no IgG antibodies in the blood, although the longest are detectable. In the meantime, many other studies have shown this. But the immunologists at the University of Zurich also tested for IgA antibodies in the nasal mucosa. This enabled them to demonstrate for the first time for the SARS-CoV-2 virus that infected people also have antibodies in the mucous membranes of the pharynx, as has been known for other viruses for some time.

What is immunity?

The immunologist Beda M.Stadler, emeritus professor of immunology and former director of the Institute of Immunology at the University of Bern dealt with this question. He writes about the “immunity deniers”:

When, after the first statistics from China and then also from the worldwide data situation, the same trend was observed that practically never a child under the age of ten fell ill, everyone should have argued that children are obviously immune. Any other disease that does not make a particular group of people fall ill would be considered to be immune. If people unfortunately die in an old people’s home, but pensioners with the same risk factors remain completely undisturbed in the same place, one should also assume that they were immune.

Some people have lost this common sense, so for fun we call them “immunity deniers”. This new genus of deniers had to observe that the vast majority of people who tested positive for this virus, ie who were found to have viruses in their throats, do not get sick at all. The term “silent carrier” has been conjured up from the hat, “silent carrier”, and claims that you can be sick without symptoms.

So the immunologist says that immunity exists if the immune system can ward off a virus infection without getting sick. As you know, this is exactly what you want to achieve with a vaccination.

But can infected people without symptoms infect other healthy people? Again the immunologist:

The next joke that some virologists spread was the claim that these asymptomatic patients could still infect other people. These “healthy” patients would harbor so many viruses in the throat that in a normal conversation between two people one “healthy” infected the other healthy.

According to the research results of the immunologists at the University of Zurich, however, the IgA antibodies in the pharynx are already waging a fierce defense against the virus. If they win, there was nothing to do with illness, they lose, they draw the next line of defense into battle and that is the antibodies in the blood and the T cells. But let’s get Professor Stadler to speak again, who also vividly describes this fight for the “immunity deniers”:

Here in a handy way and especially for those who deny immunity, once again a very short summary of how we humans are attacked and reacted by germs: If there are viruses in our environment, all people, whether immune or not, are infected by the virus. If you are immune, the duel with the virus now begins. First we try to use antibodies to prevent the virus from binding to our cells. Of course, this is only partially possible, not all are blocked, and many viruses will nest in the appropriate cells. This does not have to lead to symptoms, but it is also not a disease. Because the second guard of the immune system is now coming to the rescue. These are the so-called T cells mentioned above, white blood cells, which can determine from the outside in which other cells the viruses are hiding in order to multiply there. Such cells, which virtually breed viruses, are then searched for throughout the body and killed by the T cells until the last virus has been eradicated.

Immunity is defined as the ability of the organism to eliminate certain pathogens such as viruses without symptoms. Confirmed cases (infected) remain symptom-free thanks to immunity.

“Confirmed cases”, infected or ill people are reported in the media. The Ministry of Health publishes an “epidemiological curve” and explains: “The epidemiological curve shows the actual increase in people who tested positive.” Unfortunately, no distinction is made between asymptomatic cases, i.e. cases of immunity, and illnesses, which makes a decisive difference:

Infections without symptoms = immunity demonstrated by tests, whether PCR or antibodies.

Antibodies quickly disappear, as the University of Zurich and many others have shown. Does immunity also disappear? If a person was immune to the infection, the immunity evidently existed without the antibodies. So there should be a reason for this immunity to be reduced or disappear entirely.

Stadler concludes with:

“Back on the road to normalcy, it would do us citizens good now if some panic-makers apologized. All politicians who TEST, TEST, TEST asked without even knowing what the test measures. Or the covenant for an app that will never work and will also warn me if someone near me is positive but not contagious. ”

The study by the University of Zurich is on Preprint Server bioRxiv nachlesbar, the article by Professor Stadler is first in Swiss World week appeared, but behind a paywall, but can also be found here in the Second publication can be read without a paywall.

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