GThomas Kemmerich (FDP) was officially in office for three days. He was not only the first FDP prime minister in Thuringia. But also the first Prime Minister in Germany who was supported by the AfD. A prime minister, legitimized and dependent on a right-wing populist party? That is not possible, say the other parties.
Since then, political chaos has been raging in Germany: the grand coalition in Berlin is demanding new elections, the left in Thuringia is looking for support from the FDP and CDU. And the AfD is leaning back and preparing for the next scandal: in the next election, it could support the previous Prime Minister Bodo Ramelow (Die Linke) – to prevent him from doing so.
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Anne Will discussed with Federal Minister of Economics Peter Altmaier (CDU), FDP Federal Vice President Wolfgang Kubicki, the AfD parliamentary group leader in the Bundestag, Alice Weidel, Juso Federal President Kevin Kühnert, and Sahra Wagenknecht about how things will continue in Thuringia and what consequences the parties will draw from it (Die Linke) and the head of the “Spiegel” capital office Melanie Amann.
The innocence of the evening
Wasn’t Thomas Kemmerich aware before he was elected Prime Minister that he would get votes from the AfD? Wolfgang Kubicki tries to talk himself out. Like Kemmerich himself, he was surprised when he was elected. Nobody could have guessed that. Anne Will doesn’t let him get away with it completely: “Then why did you congratulate Mr. Kemmerich and say it was a great success?” She asks him. When he found out that Kemmerich was elected, Kubicki said, it was natural for him to congratulate him.
This is what Kevin Kühnert is addressing Kubicki: When the result was announced, Kemmerich must have been clear that he had received votes from the AfD. Then he shouldn’t have accepted the choice, but “he missed that moment”. And further: “With that he threw 70 years of democratic consensus in Germany overboard.”
The comparison of the evening
Alice Weidel is confronted by Anne Will with the proposal of her party colleague Alexander Gauland: he advises the Thuringian AfD to choose Bodo Ramelow (Die Linke) in order to prevent him as Prime Minister. According to Weidel, this was only meant ironically. Because the “democratic parties” (meant CDU, FDP, Greens, Left and SPD) are now demanding new elections, “they ignore the will of voters”. According to Weidel, this is the same as in the GDR. “Spiegel” journalist Melanie Amman then turns to Weidel: “I am really surprised how vehemently you are defending this behavior.” Alice Weidel has no argument against this. Instead, she keeps laughing and finds allegations against her party “unbelievable”.
The dodger of the evening
Alice Weidel doesn’t think of much when Anne Will asks her what she thinks of Björn Höcke, the AfD state chairman of Thuringia. In September 2019, the Meiningen administrative court announced in a ruling that Höcke could be described as a “fascist”. He did not contradict the judgment. When Alice Weidel tries to talk himself out, Sahra Wagenknecht intervenes: Höcke defines himself “expressly in this tradition” (note: Wagenknecht means the “tradition” of National Socialism).
Weidel is stunned that Wagenknecht describes Björn Höcke as a “Nazi”, but does not give a clear answer to this question. Instead, she counters: If someone describes AfD members as fascists, it is an “old Communist, Stalinist tradition”.
Number of the evening
According to a survey by Infratest Dimap, 60 percent of Thuringia’s CDU voters Bodo Ramelow can introduce themselves as prime ministers. If the CDU therefore refuses to vote for Ramelow, then it would “discuss the issue,” says Kevin Kühnert and exhorts Peter Altmaier: “Leadership is the order of the day in your party. And I don’t see that at the moment. ”Kühnert believes that the CDU should give up its position not to vote for Ramelow. But Altmaier doesn’t want to do him the favor.
Because if there were no opposing candidates in the next election, Ramelow could also be elected without the votes of the CDU, said the Economics Minister with reference to the rules of procedure of the Thuringian state parliament. Anne Will senses that in this case the “Gaulandian variant” might come into play. But Alice Weidel contradicts: “We don’t choose the Ramelow. Never.”
That’s what the net says
The topic of the program was the question of what consequences the parties will draw from the “election scandal” in Thuringia. On the talk show homepage you could see from the comments of some viewers that this question remained unanswered for them. Elke Hock writes: “Self-reflection is not an option, criticism is undesirable and is talked down by all means. For me as a voter, the question remains, what CAN I vote for? ”
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Someone who originally calls himself “The New One” thinks: “Solutions look different.” From the point of view of “Skydiver”, it doesn’t help to just argue against the AfD: “Changes the politics in the interests of the citizens, and the AfD is history. ”Volker Klatt has – contrary to the demands for new elections – the proposal:“ I am not an AfD voter, but you have to accept the election that way. It was democratic. “
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